It's Simple
It's simple.
You go after me for not making up my mind etc. and not marching to your drum.
The fact that you can worry about Immigration, Gay Marriage, and 10 year old votes is because we are not losing a war.
The fact that you have the luxury to bitch and moan about who is more Liberal and Conservative is because we are not losing a war.
We're not losing a war because John McCain made sure we wouldn't lose.
Terror and Big Government: Two things that will destroy us before an illegal or a married gay dude will.
I'm putting Country before Party after weighing all the issues.
A few talk radio hosts deciding three weeks ago to dress up a mannequin like Ronald Reagan and call him Reagan isn't something I'm buying and American voters--REPUBLICAN mind you--didn't buy it either. All my other guys dropped out.
I wish I had the luxury to fold my arms and pack it in and whine about not getting my way. But I've got a son who just joined the military and a country that needs to survive past the decade.
Do me a favor and at least listen to Senator Tom Coburn's case for McCain. Click here.
UPDATE:
Please also read this about the man so many people call a "traitor" to Conservative American values:
From a speech made by Capt. John S. McCain, US, (Ret) who represents Arizona in the U.S. Senate:
As you may know, I spent five and one half years as a prisoner of war during the Vietnam War. In the early years of our imprisonment, the NVA kept us in solitary confinement or two or three to a cell. In 1971 the NVA moved us from these conditions of isolation into large rooms with as many as 30 to 40 men to a room. This was, as you can imagine, a wonderful change and was a direct result of the efforts of millions of Americans on behalf of a few hundred POWs 10,000 miles from home.
One of the men who moved into my room was a young man named Mike Christian. Mike came from a small town near Selma, Alabama. He didn't wear a pair of shoes until he was 13 years old. At 17, he enlisted in the US Navy. He later earned a commission by going to Officer Training School. Then he became a Naval Flight Officer and was shot down and captured in 1967. Mike had a keen and deep appreciation of the opportunities this country-and our military-provide for people who want to work and want to succeed. As part of the change in treatment, the Vietnamese allowed some prisoners to receive packages from home. In some of these packages were handkerchiefs, scarves and other items of clothing. Mike got himself a bamboo needle.
Over a period of a couple of months, he created an American flag and sewed on the inside of his shirt. Every afternoon, before we had a bowl of soup, we would hang Mike's shirt on the wall of the cell and say the Pledge of Allegiance. I know the Pledge of Allegiance may not seem the most important part of our day now, but I can assure you that in that stark cell it was indeed the most important and meaningful event.
One day the Vietnamese searched our cell, as they did periodically, and discovered Mike's shirt with the flag sewn inside, and removed it. That evening they returned, opened the door of the cell, and for the benefit of all us, beat Mike Christian severely for the next couple of hours.
Then, they opened the door of the cell and threw him in. We cleaned him up as well as we could. The cell in which we lived had a concrete slab in the middle on which we slept. Four naked light bulbs hung in each corner of the room. As said, we tried to clean up Mike as well as we could. After the excitement died down, I looked in the corner of the room, and sitting there beneath that dim light bulb with a piece of red cloth, another shirt and his bamboo needle, was my friend, Mike Christian. He was sitting there with his eyes almost shut from the beating he had received, making another American flag.
He was not making the flag because it made Mike Christian feel better. He was making that flag because he knew how important it was to us to be able to Pledge our allegiance to our flag and country.
So the next time you say the Pledge of Allegiance, you must never forget the sacrifice and courage that thousands of Americans have made to build our nation and promote freedom around the world.
You must remember our duty, our honor, and our country.
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
This is a strange world! Since when did a pro-gay marriage, pro-choice become conservative and an anti-gay marriage, pro-life become a liberal????
Don’t worry, he’ll suck it up and kiss Limbaugh’s ring between now and Election Day and all will be fine. After all he and Jerry Farwell made up. He also sucked up to the very Republicans that defamed him in 2000.
Things McCain has to worry about:
1) wife’s money
2) family connections
3) marriage indiscretions
4) Keating five , implicated but not convicted
5) his age. I think he’s 72,yes???
6) His temper
Some of this mud will stick, trust me. Let the slinging begin!
John2
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My biggest concern with McCain is his stance on Illegal Immigrants (criminals) re: McCain-Feingold. I think he'll be strong on National Defense and anti-terrorism. He isn't my candidate, but will be much better for the country than Billary or a Muslim.
I still wish that someday a candidate will surface that is truly interested only in the interests of this great country instead of his/her own personal agenda. Yeah, and someday pigs will spout wings and carry passengers....
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Jamie, I am one of those that has been very critical of McCain's seemingly unconservative record on many occasions. I have been critical of you for what I believed to be your lack of support for Romney. I do think that Romney can become a leader in the conservative movement, perhaps now is not the time. I must admit that recently I have been persuaded, maybe overly so, by Rush and others that have said McCain would not be a good choice for me and the nation. I am coming around, all be it slowly, to the idea of McCain, mainly for the reasons you have put forth. You are right, national security is the most important issue facing this country at this time. Period. You are right, McCain has been consistent on this issue. I will not pack it in and not vote (I might whine a bit) just because my favorite candidate did not win a primary. John McCain is light years to the infinite power better than the socialists the Dems. are putting out there. Thank you Jamie for what you do. You keep things in perspective.
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and some more conservative stuff :
When he left his parapalegic wife for his current one and his illegitimate children , and don't get me started on his racism.
Conservative wow ! livin his personal life in the liberal fast lane !
The Double-Talk express : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioy90nF2anI
He is a war hero : True , but during vietnam he did eveything in his power for the other P.O.W.'s not to be found because they would snitch on him for kissin a little vietcong ass. ... and accordingly when he became senator , has hidden his P.O.W. records .. why ? ? ?
apparently he isn't even a natural born citizen , which would allow him to run for senator or congress , but not the presidency .... another law he fumbled with while in the senate .
John McCain is a crook and the worst possible republican candidate .
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Hey Heins...McCain was born in Panama, a U.S. Territory, to parents who were US Citizens and that makes him a citizen.
That's the first lie you told that has provne false.
You got 15 minutes to provide evidence for your other claims a)illegitimate children b)racism and c)cavorting with the enemy while a P.O.W
The natural born citizen lie was probably enough to send you permanently packing, since no real conservative as you probably claim to be has to resort to internet lies to state a case. But as a courtesy you have 15 minutes to back your statements up with facts or you'll never post here again. My guess is you can't, which makes you a charlatan. With conservatives like you around who needs lefties.
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Amen Allman!! How could anyone even think that B.S. is true about Mccain. Granted I voted for Romney but Mccain is a hero to all. He has sacraficed more for this great country than anyone could even fathom! I love the guy to death. I just don't agree with his political views.
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I forgot to add, if he is still the Republican nominee come November I will surely vote for Mccain over Clinton or Obama. A no vote is a vote for the communists!! oops I mean Dematurds.
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Theins ya dumbass! You should stuck to comments about Ron Paul and his 5 delegates!
Thx LTL
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John McCain, and a LOT of other republicans, made sure that the war effort didn't fall short. To imply that it was McCain who made it happen is disingenuous.
As to how he'll handle the war, I've no doubt that he'd do fine, as would any of the Republican candidates. But why should we give illegal combatants, those who do not wear a uniform, those not covered by Geneva Convention, the right to a civil trial in the USA? Why does Senator McCain want to close Guantanamo? He wants to treat illegal enemy combatants the same way he treats illegal immigrants. The first duty is to protect the border, and he won't do that in his own home state.
Sorry Jamie, but speeches about flags in torture cells are not credentials for commander in chief.
You want smaller government from a man who worked in the Senate with Ted Kennedy to excuse 20 million felonies, from a man whose name is on the legislation that protects incumbents from criticism by the electorate 60 days out from an election, a man who obviously doens't understand the 1st amendment to the Constitution.
John McCain is startign to make Ron Paul look real good.
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--"We're not losing a war because John McCain made sure we wouldn't lose."--
This is the same point I keep repeating to my DH when he complains about McCain. I remind him that McCain isn't my first choice on other issues, but as far as security the being RIGHT about the surge in Iraq, makes me more comfortable in casting my vote. Don't forget Bush was ready to pass the shamnesty bill under the door as well, until he & Congress were reminded of who they work for. Hopefully, McCain was paying attention. McCain is a true war hero and no one can say otherwise. I also believe that Kerry should be proud of his war service as well. It's what Kerry did AFTER the war that I have a problem with - I never questioned his service. Anyone who has the nads to ante up, in my opinion, deserves our respect for their service. If McCain is the guy, then he'll get my vote. Because the alternative is not an option.
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Allman, I must say, thank you for keeping the class in the debate. Especially at HotAir, which I know you also frequent, I've been troubled by just the vitriol hurled at McCain & Huckabee. You may not like them, but you needn't be mean! And I hear that at CPAC Ingraham introduced Romney by dissing McCain? Come on Laura, he was willing to come to CPAC and give an honest speech. Respect him, at least.
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Jamie,
I'm with you all the way on this, although Huckabee was always my second choice. You might want to ease up on Heins a little, though. Libs like him are fun to debate and easy to beat
Six words for all the right-wing zealots out there wining ad naseum, refusing even tepid support for McCain: RUTH BADER-GINSBURG, JOHN PAUL STEVENS.
And after that, three more: GOOD-BYE CONSTITUTION!
Maybe Ann Coulter will get a position on Hillary's cabinet.
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as long as he don't let Teddie Kennedy be his chauffeur.. specially if they're having to cross any bodies of water...
Just saw that Dr. Dobson is backing Chuckabee...
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Yeah Pete S.
Ron freakin' Paul would handle the war well wouldn't he????
As for protecting the border, I believe McCain has said several times over the last few weeks, and at CPAC that sealing the borders first is priority one.
I suppose a grand speech from Ron Paul on his all seeing Constitutional wisdom are good enough credentials??
Or maybe fluffy speeches about conservative values from Mitt made you feel warm and fuzzy?? Does that qualify Mitt?
Or maybe Mike Huckabee's Governorship experience and his "Wal-Mart" good ole boy credentials are enough for you??
How odd that as long as we have fought and debated and toiled with libs and ant-war, anti-American members of our own Government, that now it is so easy for some of my fellow conservitives to brush aside a heroic service to our country like McCain's??
Think about this people, McCain's views on Guantanamo, waterborading, are not mine or maybe yours...But think of their origins in McCain's mind....That man was tortured and lived in fear for almost six years of his freakin' life. In his mind it is terrifying to think of the thought of this....Put yourself in his shoes. His conclusions from his experience (agree or not) stem from being the strong willed American living in fear and pitiful conditions with our enemy. There is something to be said about that.....
Thx LTL...
Thx LTL......
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Isn't it ironic that the beautiful venomous Ann Coulter was not invited to speak or even invited to CPAC????
I think she has become a charicature of herself...
Thx LTL....
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Wow is this THE Tracy???
Great points as always Tracy. Some of these "conservatives" are going to bitch themselves into liberalism or put Hillary/Obama in office....
Thx LTL
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Vote for McCain and maybe get four years of the same, maybe worse. Has he voted for some "conservative" points? Yes. Has he voted and backed some liberal points? Yes. He says he's the "real" conservative. His record states differently. His record puts him all over the board and in many areas in the negative.
Do you compromise your convictions?
This nation is currently involved overseas militarily under the clarion call of defense and liberty, of fighting terrorism. The charge is that we need to keep the terror overseas and prevent it from coming here, thus we should stay until the job is done. That is a very poor understanding of fundamentalist Islam. But then again, that's not surprising when so many consider the fundamentalist Muslims as a fringe group that have a warped and incorrect view of Islam. The History and sacred writings of Islam paint a different interpretation, and even a few percent of over 1 billion Muslims is no fringe. Consider as well that we were attacked precisely because we had been overseas, in their lands whether directly or indirectly thru Western influence. We are told that keeping the fight over there is working because we haven't been attacked since 9-11. That's a very weak excuse.
I commend Mr. McCain for his service and certainly for his endurance as a captive. I do not deny his love of this nation, but being a military hero who suffered and nearly died is not enough for me to cast my ballot.
Our nation is economically weak right now and could well get worse. I have little evidence that McCain has the experience, wherewithall or desire to scale back the expenses and bureaucratic expansion that a "Conservative" George Bush performed.
In 2000 I bought into George Bush. I liked his quirks and his poor public speaking didn't faze me. I bought into the idea that we needed to vote for him otherwise algor would be President. 9-11 came along and I felt that my vote had been justified. But by 2004 I'd begun to see the largesse of the Bush administration, one embroiled in minor scandals, plenty of secrecy, shoddy information and a bloating government. Not to mention a poorly managed war with no end in sight. I voted my conservative convictions and voted for Peroutka.
Now, four years later we are asked to yet again vote to save the nation from the threat of a liberal President and my convictions leave no room for compromise. I do not want four more years of George Bush. I do not want four more years of a war that looked like the Constitution was bent near breaking. I want a secure border, not some amnesty-lite compromise. Have we learned nothing from history people? 1986, all hail Ronald Reagan. I grew up in the Reagan era, I loved him, and he wasn't perfect. I know that no candidate is perfect, but I'll be damned if I'm going to vote for someone who's made it very clear that he's against or ambivelant about a number of issues which I think are very important.
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Thank you all and thank you David...here's what's amazing to me. HOw many times have the conservative standard bearers expressed the importance of winning this war..and now that it's being won they've moved back to gay marriage and McCain Feingold, calling McCain a political traitor all the while. What a disgrace. What? Not interested in the war anymore gang? All your talk about liberty and freedom and while the men and women still fight for us and win you're now back to seeing what inroads you can make on banning gay marriage and testing every Republican's blood to see if they pass muster? THAT'S the modern Conservatism?
I heard another host today talk about how gloriously independent he is in his suspicion of McCain and then turned around and interviewed General Patraeus about how well the war has been going. When was the last time you heard of an American death!? Thanks to McCain the General can talk about positive things, even while being interviewed by a host who is now making his living beating up on the Senator.
That same host talked about the importance of conservative values such as ending earmarks and promoting nuclear power..two hallmarks of the McCain campaign and unmentioned by the host, probably in an effort to take credit for these issues before news gets out that McCain has ALWAYS supported these issues.
I am all for a proper vetting of McCain. No need to give him the same kind of instant pass we gave Mr. Bush. But let's keep things fair here. It's one thing to be suspicious of McCain, but when the CPAC snobs running around the hotel lobby in their socks in their little right wing lock in start fawning like little girls over Romney, I have to laugh. Notice how the case against McCain is built on past transgressions? Notice how McCain is criticized for working with Democrats? The Kids' hero, Mitt Romney, built his career sucking up to Democrats, on abortion, on gay marriage, and on socialized medicine..and now Biff is Ronald Reagan all of a sudden?. Romney's a great guy and a deft businessman and an honorable father, but don't try to pass him off as Reagan while you bash a good man like McCain.
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Lt., this individual isn't bitching himself into liberalism. I'm standing my ground on my conservative convictions and not willing to give an inch.
The Republicans in this nation had their chance to vote for some real conservatives in their party, and they spit in their faces. Too grumpy, no "fire" or just plain unappealling and unknown. Goes to show the general intelligence and wisdom of the voting public. Well, your left to scrape the barrel and pray and hope that all of the campaign rhetoric that McCain gives you will be honored if he gets elected. You're willing to make defense your primary issue while our economy continues to tank.
It is known that cells exist in this country right now. We've found some. How many do we not know of? Do we seriously think that we're going to get attacked - if we do - again the same way we were on 9-11? Beslan people. If we get attacked again here in this country, do you think that our economy can survive? Yet we will hang our hopes on the warhawk because he's a hero, so that means he must be the best chance we have.
I understand the consequences of a Democrat winning the Presidency. If Hillary gets the nom and win, I think it's pretty much going to be a stalemate. If Obama gets the nom and win, yes, we could well see this nation lurch to the left even more.
But I'm willing to take that chance because while I love this country it's not my be all and end all. I do not wrap myself in the flag; the USA is not my god. God, Family, Republic, in that order. And to that end, my convictions based upon my values, my beliefs are paramount. Many more feel the same way. I have a funny feeling we're going to see another 1992 on election night as people turn to the third parties in disgust and firm conviction over fear. And we will continue to fight, promoting, defending and especially attacking with our conservatism. A vote for McCain is not an attack on liberalism by conservatives; it's a compromise by defense, and that's no way to win the nation. If we conservatives feel that liberalism is that disdainful and so bad for humanity, we need new tactics because the liberals will trump us every time. They've already won this election before it's occured, but too many compromising people are blind to the reality.
And to JD, on the justices: Bush Sr. gave us Souter. So much for a conservative Reagan legacy.
Last year this time I thought Ron Paul was a nut not worth a second thought. I believed that the best candidate was Thompson, offering experience, no-nonsense and electability. People went for the typical pandering, mid-campaign flipping and look where the GOP is now.
I knew I'd probably be voting Constitution Party again if Mitt went no where and lo and behold, they're backing Paul. I've been giving him a second look and the more I read and hear, the more I realize that his views are mine and that he is the true conservative.
Conviction over compromise.
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Jamie, I did hear a couple of bits of Hannity today/yesterday, so I know who you're talking of. Typical Sean. Two-face kiss-ass. He'll back McCain by November, count on it. Ingraham, Levin, they'll be in lockstep and excusing their naysaying of McCain all the way. They have no true convictions, thus they will be willing to compromise.
I used to think that "winning the war" was important. That was until I realized that how it was begun is highly suspect and how it had been carried out was very problematic. I support our boys and I wish them well. I do hope they succeed in their missions because as an American I don't want our boys to fail, period. That being said, I do not believe that staying overseas is the proper option. I have serious concerns about how our government has stretched the Constitution to get us there, much less keep us there. I have serious concerns about our economy, especially considering its drain on our Federal budget. In conjunction with our already weak economy, I don't think that burying us even deeper in debt in the name of defense is the answer. If our economy collapses, what use is our military forces overseas fighting a battle that may literally have no end, certainly one they cannot fiscally pay to fight?
If we have one Beslan here, where does the argument go that states we're safe because our boys are overseas defending us, freedom and liberty?
Jamie, for the true conservatives, the social conservatives, issues like gay marraige and abortion have never left the radar, they have never stopped being an issue. It's only the political parties and the media that have overshadowed them with the war.
When one has conviction, you never compromise, you never stop fighting for your beliefs, and you are certainly never a one issue individual.
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My candidate is out and I disagree with McCain on so much, but I think we should now focus on the First Ladies. I would rather look at McCains wife for the next 4 years than Obama's or Clintons. I vote for McCain's hot wife! If he has to tag along with her as President then so be it.
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And Clinton gave us Brier and the Chief Legal Council of the ACLU - Ginsburg. No, there is nexer certainty in these SCOTUS appointments, but it sure doesn't hurt to have the odds in your favor. Besides, as evidenced by the reaction of the Harriet Miers appointment, conservatives are much more in tune to this issue and will accept nothing less than a constructionist with a proven track record.
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Just some funny stuff to lighten the mood....
2008 Democrat National Convention
Schedule of Events
7:00 pm OPENING FLAG BURNING
7:15 pm PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE U.N.
7:20 pm Ted Kennedy PROPOSES A TOAST
7:25 pm NONRELIGIOUS PRAYER AND WORSHIP - Jesse Jackson & Al Sharpton
7:45 pm CEREMONIAL TREE HUGGING – Darryl Hannah
7:55 pm Ted Kennedy PROPOSES A TOAST
8:00 pm HOW I INVENTED THE INTERNET - Al Gore
8:15 pm GAY WEDDING PLANNING - Rosie O’Donnell
8:35 pm Ted Kennedy PROPOSES A TOAST
8:40 pm OUR TROOPS ARE WAR CRIMINALS – John Kerry
9.00 pm MEMORIAL SERVICE FOR SADDAM AND HIS SONS - Cindy Sheehan and Susan Sarandon
10:00 pm ANSWERING MACHINE ETIQUETTE - Alec Baldwin
11:00 pm Ted Kennedy PROPOSES A TOAST
11:05 pm COLLECTION FOR THE OSAMA BIN LADEN KIDNEY TRANSPLANT FUND – Barbara Streisand
11:15 pm FREE THE FREEDOM FIGHTERS FROM GUANTANAMO BAY - Sean Penn
11:30 pm OVAL OFFICE AFFAIRS - William Jefferson Clinton
11:45 pm Ted Kennedy PROPOSES A TOAST
11:50 pm HOW GEORGE BUSH BROUGHT DOWN THE WORLD TRADE TOWERS – Howard Dean
12:15 am TRUTH IN BROADCASTING AWARD - Presented to Dan Rather by Michael Moore
12:25 am Ted Kennedy PROPOSES A TOAST
12:30 am SATELLITE ADDRESS – Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
12:45 am NOMINATION OF HILARY RODHAM CLINTON – Nancy Pelosi
1:00 am Ted Kennedy PROPOSES A TOAST
1:05 am CORONATION OF HILARY RODHAM CLINTON
1:30 am Ted Kennedy PROPOSES A TOAST
1:35 am Bill Clinton asks Ted Kennedy to drive Hilary home
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BTW, i'm currently in Baghdad and for those people that support us yet want us to come home, please, well, there is just no way to say this to make it sound polite......please shut up... this is my second deployment, my first deployment was a lot of dodging IEDs and ambushes and concentrating on where the insurgents lived and worked, this deployment???? We're still lookin for the insurgents, however our focus has changed to:
1-opening schools, last week i attended a school opening for grade schoolers, we handed out bookbags and such and the kids loved it...they put on a play for us, much like back home.
2-Meetings much like town hall meetings where Iraqi citizens are having a voice in how things are run, what improvements they have accomplished and what still needs work...notice i said THEY HAVE A VOICE?...
3-routine patrols just asking citizens their thoughts and opinions on things and most are pretty happy, some have complaints, but a lot of Americans complain about their lives and a bum on the street in the US lives better than some over here.
So ya see, i really don't want to come home, i have a job to do here...from protecting the kids so they can go to school, to listening to gripes and concerns from people that have never had a voice in how their lives are run......
i knwo this isn't about the US elections, but the war was mentioned a few times in the above posts, and we're winning, BIG TIME.....and it irks me that people keep saying "bring our boys home" it doesn't score points with us...
BTW, i'll be voting absentee ballot...
thanks for the soapbox
take care ya'll
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Logus,
I admire and sympathize with your views, I really really do. What you view as "compromsing" I view as reality.
McCain is the nominee, plain and simple. Standing your ground on the surface is admirable but to what result? Hillary/Obama?
Understand Logus, I am voting on one thing. The fight against terror. The economy is cyclical and yes will cause financial woes for some, that is something I can tackle at home for me and my own... I don't fear the economy.
Ron Paul I truly do view as a nut, an anti-semite (based on his newsletters) and a racist. I will not stand for anyone disregarding and destroying the successes made and blood spilled by our troops in this fight on terror. I.E. Ron Paul or Obama.
John McCain as Jamie stated is being villified for actions ten years in the past...He is making convincing strides to assure those doubters of those actions and yet the radio talking heads ignore and harp on the same ol same. Funny they give Mitt a pass on his flip-flopping and their champion bowed out them...Why? Did he compromise too? No, he said he did it for his concern on the war terror and the betterment of the country? Even he sees what's at stake here...He does not want Hillary/Obama in office...Why can't the radio minions admit that?
I envision the political landscape soon changing into a three or even four party system....Right now though Logus, I have to put my will and trust in McCain. I want this war on terror quelled before my son and daughter become of age to experience this threat they are innocently oblivious too.
I want one saving grace conservative to take office before I leave this planet, it's not John McCain by any means, but he can keep the path open and the fight alive for when that person comes along.
I don't dilute my beliefs. I am conservative through and through, but a vote for Ron Paul as it comes to terror, is no different than a vote for Obama in my book.
You mentioned Beslan, I have mentioned it several times here on BMA, as my greatest fear Logus. I can't get that scene out of my mind.
If you have a President like Ron Paul, that wants understand radicals, or blames our own country for their anger toward us? How much into this fight do you think he would be? Would his heart be seriously into it? With Ron Paul and his so called "common sense", it would all depend on how much money we had at the time...That's his heart Logus. Notice almost every speech ends with "the dollar"? I find that to be a sign of a vacant soul and a dangerous one track mind.
What strength does the Constitution have if we don't protect ourselves from those around the world that would harm it's meaning?
I respect your concerns, but when this election is over and if we do have a Hillary or Obama in office? You will quickly find that "standing your ground" may really have been standing aside....
Thx LTL..
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Dear Jeff,
I want to send you my deep, deep thanks for your service. I know your mission and I know how deeply committed you, and so many others, are in willing to sacrifice for the country that you love. Every night, before I fall asleep, I pray for you and your comrades who so selfishly give their all, for freedom. May God bless you, your pals and America. The work that you are doing has such meaning for all of us. Please, don't ever forget that there are some here, back at home, who support you AND your mission - completely. Please, continue to do your work with pride and valor. Because that is how I, and so many others, see you and your comrades.
Take care and God bless,
Tracy
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Hi LTL,
Yes, it's me.
Take care,
Tracy
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Tracy,
Hope everything is well with you and yours Tracy, and I am always glad to see your name here at BMA... You always bring a bright light with you.
Thx LTL>...
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Lt., in my mind I already think this country and this world is doomed. I do not foresee a rosy future for this nation, no matter who is in office, Democrat, Conservative, third party, whoever. I am a pessimistic optimist.
The economy is cyclical true, but it doesn't take much to affect it, and it may not take much to completely unbalance our whole nation to the detriment of its continuity.
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Jeff,
My goodness brother, I want to repeat the words of Tracy and I also want to say to Jeff...and Jamie I hope you are reading, Please forward your information to Jamie, I would like to, through AdoptaPlatoon..adopt your unit on behlaf of BullMooseAmerica. Any one here at BullmooseAmerica interested in this is welcome to email me anytime at armytuff@hotmail.com and let's adopt Jeff and his buddies and make his stay one supported by patriots and support at home, right from this fine site.
Jeff, email me anytime and I can assure you that you will have what you need.
Jamie, can you help me make this happen with Jeff???
Thx LTL
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Logus,
You are basing you pessimism on the "if come"... Throw all the media hype and radio talking head stuff aside and look at things this way...
We ARE winning the war on terror. Iraq is more peaceful than its been in years. It is a success. Did you read Jeff's post? How is that for American optimism? Coming from a man living in a war. A soldier so satisfied with he and his buddy's work. Work so well done there that they have time to get on the net.He took the time to post right here on Jamie's site. Jeff's post made my day and my weekend.
Soon Logus Afghanistan will be blessed with 3200 ready Marines and we will finish the job there...
Where is the doom coming from Logus? Things are great right now my friend, don't get bogged down by the barrage from the information media machine and propaganda...Dare I say..It's all good?
Thx LTL
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As I'd stated, if my forecast is wrong, I'll be more then happy to accept that it was wrong. I have no problem being wrong. Things look rosy. Heck, things looked rosy for our economy in Sept. 1929, they even looked like things were going to pull thru after that Oct. for at least a little while. Or did the superpower England foresee itself as no longer being The superpower within a few years after WWII?
Am I happy that Saddam is gone? Yes. Am I happy that we've done so many good things in Iraq? Yes. Do I believe we've done some good things in Iraq? Yes. Do I believe the surge worked? Yes. Do I want our soldiers to succeed in their appointed tasks? Yes. Do I believe that we should follow our laws and Constitution, especially when it comes to going to war? Yes. Do I have concerns about how our politicians have gone to war, possibly doing some major Constitutional two-stepping? Yes.
I don't base my pessimism on media hype or talking heads. I base my pessimism on the news and the Bible, looking thru the interpretive lens of my faith. I look at the who fundamentalist Muslims are and what they really believe based upon face to face contact I've had with them overseas before and after 9-11 in England and Central Asia along with nearly 8 years of personal study on Islam. I do not believe the smarmy feel-good statements of the likes of George Bush when he states that Islam is a religion of peace. Are many Muslims peaceful? Yes. Have there been many peaceful regimes and groups in their history? Yes. Does their history, many of their tactics and especially their writtings show some history of accepted violence towards non-Muslims? Yes. Many of the actions and words of Mohammad according to their own Quran and Hadiths lend strong support to the idea that the interpretation of fundamentalist Muslims is within the bounds of "acceptability". Even when our navy and merchants were attacked by the Barbary pirates, their reasoning for the right to do so was that we were non-Muslims and the Quran and Hadiths gave them that right, 200 years ago.
Do I hope that when our commanders say that the job truly is finished, Iraq and Afghanistan will remain stable? Yes. Do I have concern that fundamentalist forces are merely waiting for that day when our forces to leave to continue or restart their Dar-Al-Islamic efforts? Yes. Crushing Alqaida may occur, but I don't see it killing the beast that is fundamentalist Islam. There are around 1 billion Muslims of which at least 10% are considered fundamentalist or sharing the opinion of them. Alqaida is the tip of an iceberg.
I could care less about what the media has to say. I look at the news, history and the Bible. Taking all those things into account, I do not foresee a rosy future for this nation or this world for that matter.
I hope for the best outcome. I want the best outcome, and as a Christian I believe that in Christ the best outcome will occur. But I see reality too.
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Logus,
Your last sentence said it all man...."You beleive that in Christ the best outcome will occur"....That is reality my friend.
We are a blessed nation and we are obligated as a blessed nation to take on death and violence and those that disrpupt peace in the world. It's an obligation that brings sacrifice and resolve... Which through all the muck and miar and rhetoric we always come to call.
Thx LTL
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And that is why I said that initially, I supported Fred Thompson for President, because I believed that he embodied the best conservative position along with going after terrorism. But if we are a nation of laws and we believe that the Constitution is our "Bible" for government, then how can we say we follow it if we bend it and subvert it in the name of fighting for Freedom? I cannot say that I wholly believe that this war is illegal just as much as I certainly don't believe that 9-11 was an "inside job".
We are a blessed nation LT, but I think it's the height of arrogance for the US to believe that it will always be on top or that it must be on top, just as much as it feels it should be the world policeman.
We've got so many issues going on at home, what with our borders and certainly our economy. Fighting in the name of peace and liberty abroad is nice, and the belief that we should keep the fighting "over there" instead of here is definitely something we'd all prefer. But in the scales of our national concerns, perhaps it's time to scale back and more importantly, make sure that when we do fight, we're doing it in a manner that is beyond reproach, walking the talk according to our own laws. Either we are a nation of laws we agree to abide by, or we are a nation of liars. It's time we all start electing politicians that agree to follow the law and firing or not re-electing those that don't.
Reality. Christ is reality, yes, however what I meant to clarify was that I see the reality of where our world is headed, where this nation is headed. Secular relativism rules the day in this nation, not truth or concrete morality. China is a sleeping dragon, bursting at the seams with the largest standing army and not enough women to marry them. They virtually own our debt and can affect our economy greatly at their whim. Russia is another concern. Putin is still in power, the power behind the scenes and the Bear does plenty of business with Iran and China. We know about Iran. And while a minor, Castro-like player, Venezuala can also affect us just as Iran can at the gas pumps. And finally, culturally Europe is dying from the onslaught of Muslim immigration and fomentation of fundamentalism while economically it's becoming a powerhouse. Our dollar is weaker then the Canadian dollar! Do we really think that this "stimulus" will help? Does throwing money at the homeless get them out of their mindset? We are a nation deeply in debt and yet our politicians decide to put us further into debt every day.
Perhaps it's time to look a little inwardly instead of outwardly, at least for a little while.
Christ is the reality, but so too does it seem to be what I - and many others - see on the horizon. Some have called it "The Perfect Storm". I think it might be the birth pangs...
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Thank YOU and the others serving I and my son pray daily for you alls safety WE THANK GOD for your service. I want you home WHEN the job is done. I want you to have a home to come home to. I may not fight in uniform, but I fight tooth and nail daily against the stupidity that thrives here at home. THANK YOU THANK YOU For protecting us, we are trying to protect you too.
God Bless
LOVE LNSu
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Being a war hero makes you a hero. NOT a president. Understanding how to win a war isn't enough to keep from collapsing as a nation. SO SORRY Jamie you got this one WRONG I am tired of taking 1/2 of what I deserve. And as much as I hate to admit it Ron Paul has got it on ALL the issues, except the war. But he's smart and he wouldn't take him long b4 this became a just war in his eyes too.
McCain thinks to much like a liberal and I wouldn't VOTE for him even with a gun to my head BIGGER Government is a disaster waiting to happen. NO water boarding its torcher come on its necessary to kill or maim when at war. I'm sorry I will not watch someone kill my kid cuz it would be wrong to be cruel back. Remember that murder is the sin not killing.
McCain will continue to spend us into oblivion The only one who says what he actually means is Paul.
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Not about McCain, but an interesting (and lengthy) read. Use salt...
http://www.freedomsenemies.com/_more/obama.htm
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Here is a little bit of the truth about mccain and his vietnam sellout ... feel free to watch the rest of it on your own time .
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xBiti-ZbeO0
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here is a short video of the truth about mccain's vietnam sellout , feel free to watch the rest of it on your own time .
How about reporting both sides of the news for a change ?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xBiti-ZbeO0
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So you're asked to provide proof of your claims that McCain is not a real citizen, has an illegitimate child, and that he refuses to release POW records, and is a traitor, and all you can muster is a youtube video?
And I'm the one who gets a lecture about telling "both sides" of the story?!
What a laugh.
Be a man and provide proof of your claims. They are all false and you know it, otherwise you would provide proof. You are a liar.
Any moron can Google. Again, you were given the opportunity to provide proof of your claims and you didn't. You have zero credibility.
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Theins,
Why must you resort to your "black helicopter" conspiratorial Ron Paulish, U.F.O, bigfoot BS?? That Youtube video is a trumped up dramatized drive by.
The Senators speaking out against McCain in that video, did not elude to McCain being a traitor, it was the other "experts" and the way the film was made and dramatized that eluded to that.... Who put that film up on Youtube I wonder?
Since your boy Ron Paul has fallen from his place on high...You have attempted to slander McCain and others. Get over it!
Most of the time I enjoy your input, but I can tell you if you want to stay here and contribute? Calling out Jamie and making accusations and slandering folks based on loose facts is not the way to do it.
Thx LTL
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Allman : I have tried numerous attempts to submit a real comment ....
it always says "being submitted for moderation" .... so check your in-box or whatever it is and allow my last comment or two .
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Here's an interesting article from a site via a link on Allman's Electric Stove:
http://politicalgrind.com/2008/02/11/why-mccain-must-never-become-president/#more-524
It discusses not McCain's service, but his record and the "game" of politics as conservatives are concerned. This is an article about conviction, not compromise... and it's not a "Pauline epistle".
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You haven't been censored and you know it. I explicitly stated that had a chance to provide proof that John McCain is a) not a citizen, as you claimed b)fathered and illigitimate child c)cheated on his wife d)was a traitor and e)refused to release his POW records. You failed to provide backup on any of them except one--the traitor issue that you supplied someone's youtube hit job as evidence.
You have been provided ample opportunity to provide evidence of your outrageous claims and you have not, and none of your stalled posts provided evidence either. So where in the F*** is your evidence?!
Then you come back and say McCain is a liberal Republican. No shit. (And , as you know, I have been quite complimentary of Obama on these pages even though I heartily disagree with him on many issues.) But the McCain liberal thing wasn't your original claim. Your original claimed lied and smeared a guy with false charges.
The little cowardly harpie "Jeff" from Manhattan jumped down like a vulture in your defense with, again, no defense. This is the same guy who defended Kerry in the Swiftboat thing. I defended him too. So what is it with liberals who will say anything about anybody and then whine when you are held to account?
I appreciated in the past your moderate political views posted on here that often made sense even if I didn't agree with them. I don't kow what the hell happened to you, but your charges against McCain are inexcusable, as any claims against anyone, Republican or Democrat, would be if they were as slanderous and false as that.
By the way, T--stay away from "Jeff" from Manhattan. He's the kind of cowardly liberal you don't want to have on your side. He's among many trying to find a way to escape from Hillary's rear end after spending years crawling into it. Obama is sending all of them and their DNC whitebread limo libs to Hell where they belong.
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Ahh yes Jamie..."The Cowardly Harpies" Who could forget the cowardly blue harpies and their care for the poor and the misfortunate.....hmmmmmm.........yeah.....harpies.....(Dream Sequence).....blue harpies...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R5NBnrSrRM
Thx LTL..
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I will willingly omit the illegitimate children claim , that in fact was from the 2000 campaign when the Bush camp was running against him and has since been proven false .
war , war , and more war ( Thanks John ) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oj_YtY-EZQ
The racism issue : he openly uses racial slurs with his campaign staffers , that's more than enough . . look it up , I think his head might explode if he has to run against a black man named obama .. And no , I'm not being P.C. or liberal I just think in 2008 racism should be a nonissue , because every american is getting screwed by washington these days not just minorities ...
70% of americans want the borders closed , period . And historically national sovereignty has been a rapublican stance , but we can't even get that much from john mccain .
I've said it before , By standing by McCain for the "republican's" sake then you are signing away your rights to have a conservative America and whatever core republican values you may have .. And I hate to break it to you , but just because I don't support the war AT ALL doesn't make me , unpatriotic , unamerican , or even less conservative .
The whole program has shifted left , McCain is so close to the supposed center and clinton/obama are so far left now because of McCain that we are getting screwed every which way from sunday .
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Theins,
What are you reading??? "Look it up" you say... What are you reading to make you beleive the racism claims against McCain??
How do you so easily latch onto these claims, yet you shrug off Ron Paul's racist and anti-semitic newsletters that bare his name? Aren't they not one in the same???
So if it's not McCain, then who? Who can you vote for to make a certain impact on the outcome? Logus mentioned voting his conscience...I admire that..I do. But it's vote reality and the future..Or it's cast a vote that is like a whisper to a scream.
Thx LTL
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Any moment now I expect the word "Zionist" to be brought into this thread.
http://www.mlive.com/news/bctimes/index.ssf?/base/news-11/1201623404297180.xml&coll=4
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LTL - I think I will probably do more research and find out who will be worse for this country and vote for them ... I'm tired of voting between the lesser of two evils , so this time I'm gonna vote for the Greater of two evils .
Maybe I'll right in jesus or something who knows . . . It's just a freakin shame that we have nothing but establishment candidates left in this thing and the American people voted that way as if those 3 clowns were the best and could provide a real change .
I've wrote the words on numerous occasions to this and that's why I think it triggered the "moderation" --- so type in john mccain and a slur that rhymes with "spooks" for his racism , get used to it now before he it's brought up in november .
I'm not latching and shrugging the claims ... It's just bogus that Ron Paul got railroaded with his "instance" from 20 years ago and John mccain is getting a free pass when he has said it loud and clear in this 2008 cycle .
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Hey Tracy...
Zionist.
Yup. I'm an Israelo/Jewophile conservative. And I had considered Ron Paul for a little bit. Ain't it something that someone who's pro-Semitic can agree with someone's basic platform that seems to be anti-Semitic.
But as it stands, from what I've read, Ron Paul has no desire to leave the GOP, instead willing to run for re-election for Congress. And I will continue looking and thinking.
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Hillary hopes you have forgotten. Have you????
Hillary Clinton has been telling America that she is the most qualified candidate for president based on her "record," which she says includes her eight years in the White House as First Lady - or "co-president" - and her seven years in the Senate. Here is a reminder of that that record includes:
1. As First Lady, Hillary assumed authority over healthcare reform, a process that cost the taxpayers over $13 billion. she told both Bill Bradley and Pat Moynihan, key votes needed to pass her legislation, that she would "demonize" anyone who opposed it. But it was opposed; she couldn't even get it to a vote in a Congress controlled by her own party. (And in the next election, her party lost control of both the House and Senate.)
2. Hillary assumed authority over selecting a female attorney general. Her first two recommendations (Zoe Baird and Kimba Wood) were forced to withdraw their names from consideration, and then she chose Janet Reno. Janet Reno has since been described by Bill himself as "my worst mistake."
3. Hillary recommended Lani Guanier to head the Civil Rights Commission. When Guanier's radical views became known, she had to withdraw her name.
4. Hillary recommended her former law partners, Web Hubbell, Vince Foster, and William Kennedy for positions in the Justice Department, White House staff, and the Treasury, respectively. Hubbell was later imprisoned; Foster *"committed suicide,"* and Kennedy was forced to resign.
5. Hillary also recommended a close friend of the Clintons, Craig Livingstone, for the position of director of White House security. When Livingstone was investigated for the improper access of up to 900 FBI files of Clinton enemies (Filegate) and the widespread use of drugs by the White House staff, both Hillary and her husband denied knowing him. (FBI agent Dennis Sculimbrene confirmed in a Senate Judiciary Committee in 1996 both the drug use and Hillary's involvement in hiring Livingstone. After that, the FBI closed its White House Liaison Office, after serving seven presidents for over 30 years.)
6. In order to open "slots" in the White House for her friends, the Harry Thomasons (to whom millions of dollars in travel contracts could be awarded), Hillary had the entire staff of the White House Travel Office fired; they were reported to the FBI for "gross mismanagement" and their reputations ruined. After a 30-month investigation, only one, Billy Dale, was charged with a crime - mixing personal money with White House funds when he cashed checks. The jury acquitted him in less than two hours.
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Theins,
Bottom line is we've got to vote for what we think is right. I am not spouting off to change anyone's mind on who ever they want to vote for....
But I will be very curious to listen to Rush and Laura etc, as we draw closer to November. Laura introduced Mitt Romney as the "only true conservative running". Now her man endorsed McCain today... She has repeatedly said she will uphold true conservative values no matter what. So we'll see how long they beat this fruitless drum.
Rush has said that he does not care what the other side of the aisle beleives, discourse within a party is in it's founding. Hey that's great you know. Since he fuels it after all.
As November draws closer, they will change their tune. It's clear to me, if conservaitves don't vote for McCain and write in or sit out...they are failing their repsonsibility and not only casting a vote against McCain but they are voting for Hillary/Obama. So what does that do for conservative values if those two are in the White House?
Lesser of two evils? Yeah sure it is....But isn't it truly that way Every election year when it comes to politicians? Isn't it?
The answer is obvious to me..
Thx LTL
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Tracy,
You must be a psycic. Do you have ESPN too??
Thx LTL
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I'm really at a loss with it this time .
the dems in the primaries are already getting 3 and 4 times more votes during the primaries , which is a pretty good sign to me that the reps are gonna get slaughtered regardless who the nominee is ... more or less gonna be a sacrificial lamb , I say that light heartedly as I view it with objectivity .
For one main reason : Even if John McCain was the "everything to everybody" candidate , the fact remains , that george Jr. has scared away the republican base ...
so essentially I'm thinking the republicans have lost it before it even began , maybe .... what do you think ?
I've stated in the past that the red/blue left/right paradigm is a bit of an illusion , but the majority of americans do not see it that way .. so naturally instead of another republican ie. "bush" they vote democrat ... and instead of another clinton they vote obama ...
but , obama is Captain Liberal ... get ready to pay out the ying yang on our paychecks , haha .
entitlement ! entitlement ! entitlement !
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and my other theory is that the dems are so desperate to be in control again that they put a woman and a black man as their front runners ... so the millions of sheeple will get worked into a lather into some historic event of presidential proportion where it is irresistable ... a once in a lifetime type of deal ...
maybe just maybe
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I wonder if Hillary could swallow her pride and ignominy and accept being a v.p. candidate? That being said, I wonder if Obama would be willing to "ask" her?
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Logus,
I can't see Hillary accepting being the "Jr." in office...but as power hungry as she is, I could be wrong there if that what she has available.
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Theins,
You are absolutely right on the Reps numbers at the polls...My feeling is that a huge portion is suffering from "war fatigue". We were beat to death with "hate Bush" rhetoric. "Wrong war, Wrong Time." as Jamie stated a LONG time ago "the Vietnamization of the war" We had Murtha slandering our troops in traitorous fashion. (Where is Jack by the way? No where to be seen or heard from since those he slandered have been found innoncent...interesting)
We had Pelosi with her "Calm Down Mr. Bush, there is a new Congress in town" quote. Her big promise of the Dems first 100 days in Congressional power....Where is tough Nan now?? No plans for a trip to Tehran Nan? Awful ironic that the lefty morons are quiet.
The centerist Dems used these tards to beat up the President in prep for election (hence Speaker Nan), the war, and its efforts and successes. Now? It's quiet isn't it? No Nan, No Harry, No Jack. Election time! Move to the center. Make a heroic stance Dems right?
Unfortunately, "T" many Americans are fatigued by the war, they have outright fell for the Dems crap, or through osmosis soaked in all the loud noise over the past few years they and the media have spewed, and then there is the divide in the McCain issue in the Rep party.(Fueled by egos like Limbaugh and Ingraham)
The media is not as nearly as propelled to report the great success of the fight in Iraq, or to give President Bush credit for what is a success...
There is a quiet underlying Bush phobia going on in the Rep party (except for John McCain might I add, and Mitt to a point)....
The resolve that President Bush asked for is disolving with many...and that is a shame given the hard work and sacrifice so many have made....and the obvious ever present threat of terrorists.
The power these candidates seek means more to them than the truth of our President's, our soldiers' and our country's accomplishments....
Lack of resolve, the media bias on Iraq, a media created recession, it's just bullsh** Theins, and unfortunately the Republican base is in a frenzy and is way off track in my opinion.....Short memories...
The Dem candidates no this..that is why Hillary and Obama's debates were in reality a Dem love fest and is also why Obama can just keep talking about "hope" and "yes we can" crap and both sound like heroes all the while.
Thx LTL
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Boo friggin' hoo. I'm sick to death of McCain's torture cell stories. They're no more relevant to his qualifications than were Kerry's swift-boat heroics. I'm not brushing aside his service, heroic or otherwise. But perhaps I'm saying that his torture may be an adverse experience that will dilute the steely resolve needed to deal with terrorists, and waterboarding is way down on the list. I don't give a damn about these terrorists and their supposed rights that McCain wants to grant them.
McCain sold out his oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. McCain-Feingold is an overt assault on my 1st Amendment rights unlike any legislation passed in the last 200 years. I don't recall Mitt, Huck, Dunc, Fred, putting up such a disgusting bill.
And I said he was starting to make Ron Paul look good, not that I was going to vote for the ostrich.
When a republican is more willing to cross the aisle and work with the political enemy than with his own party, then what the heck is the difference between him and any democrat. John called Alito too conservative. What does that tell you about his views of conservatives?
Screw McCain. He ain't gettin my vote. I'll say it again. If I were in Arizona, he would never have gotten my vote for the Senate, and I'll be damned if I give him my vote for President. He can go court all the moderates he wants to win, but I'm just tired of all the pretenders. Dole, Bush, Bush, McCain, this party is rapidly becoming indistinguishable from the democrats.
I'll be looking at the Constitution ticket or libertarian ticket, but McCain won't get and doesn't deserve the vote of a single conservative, especially after all his demeaning and dismissing of the conservative voices. Just remember his haughty arrogance about the noise his back room deal over McAmnesty. He excoriated the unwashed over their obvious stupidity and lack of deference to his obvious insight into the McCain-Kennedy Amnesty bill.
John, no-friggin-way, McCain.
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What's the difference between McCain and the Democrats? Not much apparently . . .
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56177
As I said, he has no problem dealing with politcal enemies of conservatism, so this should come as no surprise.
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Pete S.
In your post above you wrote
"Boo friggin' hoo, I'm sick to death of hearing McCain's torture cell stories"
I fully understand your feelings on McCain's stance on past issues, but I can't understand how you can make that statement and follow it with....
"They're no more relevant to his qualifications than were Kerry's swift-boat heroics. I'm not brushing aside his service, heroic or otherwise."
Regardless of your beliefs in the relevance of military service...to say that they are no more relevant than John Kerry's service is, to put it mildly, a stretch...(bullsh** fits better)
Boo friggin' hoo? How about your ass being locked up and tortured for 5 1/2 years by an enemy that thought we were dogs and treated us as such? Not knowing what the hell was going on and whether your family was safe, alive or healthy? Everday being gut wrenching and dismal? Would you still think "Boo friggin' hoo"?
Vote for whoever you want Pete S.
Vote the Constitution Party, Liberarian, hell vote for a Dance Party. I don't care. Whatever flips your lid.
But don't beat down a man that has served his country and gave everything he had...
Rush and Ingraham and those that think like you, laugh all the way to the bank... and they have an on air niche that will take them all the way to November, till they vote for McCain...and THEY WILL.
But in case you are looking for someone to vote for...Is Pat Paulsen running this time? Steven Colbert? Hey you can write him in....
Or hey here is someone that I have a lot of respect for and hey, you may not agree with him..but at least he's not evil John McCain right???
http://www.walken2008.com/
I have my shirt on order....
Thx LTL
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One last bash.
I submit that with the incredible successes the Bush military actions have produced in destroying terrorists, their leadership, funding, and their support in Iraq and Afghanistan, that the most pressing issue facing America today is no longer terrorists of the Al Qaida sort, but of the Al Gore sort. The eco-terrorists, of which Al Gore is the high mullah, threaten to destroy the free market economy of the United States which provides us our ability to wage the kinds of actions for which you so glibly give credit to John McCain.
McCain has signed on with the eco-terrorists, agreeing to their world domination agenda of taking our economy hostage to the carbon menace. Implementing that agenda, to which he has singed on, will ruin the engine of freedom that allows us to project power and defeat the other terrorists.
The derangement he shows, in willingly agreeing to sign on with Al Gore and his new church, poses a far larger danger to the ruination of America than does Osama, or Adolf Ahmadenijhad. Neither of those peons has the ability to damage America the way that John McCain will do by agreeing to the dementia of the Church of Global warming.
The Global Warming agenda is coming, and apparently there's nothing we can do to stop it, short of jamming the Senate with as many true conservatives as possible. Electing Obama, Clinton, or McCain, will usher in an executive branch that feels we need to destroy the economy to protect the planet from a non-existent enemy. And since the inevitable economic collapse that will follow will lead to a tremendous political backlash, it may as well be against those who presided over the most insane use of centralized power.
I'm voting, but not for McCain. I'm voting to send as many conservatives to the House and Senate as possible, to counteract the coming liberal tidal wave in November, topped with either McCain or another democrat whose actions to destroy the economy will be indistinguishable.
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I'm not bashing John McCain's service to his country. But I'm tired of hearing about his time in a prisoner of war compound. How many other Viet Nam era POWs are there in this country? Are they all qualified now to be President?
What happened 30+ years ago in the Jungle's of Viet Nam is fine for biographies and profiles in courage. What interests me is what McCain has done since then to ruin my rights, to enable the democrats' agenda, to subvert the very people he now begs for support. You may feel fine overlooking the myriad actions that man has taken to render the Constitution meaningless, but I don't.
Oh, one more thing.
Boo friggin hoo.
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Wow! Pete S.
McCain's service doesn't matter to you and he has signed onto "world domination" with Al Gore?
By the way the global warming agenda is already here Pete S. But like the anti-american rhetoric from the Pelosi's and Murtha's? The global warming "concert tour" has winded down and it's "climate change" now.
Ya see, the radicals go to sleep in election years, they crawl back in their holes.
Unfortunately, the division and the McCain haters are a true blessing and lamb to the slaughter for the Dems...
But hey it makes for great talk radio for Rush and his gang huh?
Thx LTL...
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I simply disagree with McCain’s politics. Amazing how people forget. Lindsey Graham and John McCain grinning from ear to ear gleaming into Ted Kennedy’s eyes. A couple days later their cronies basically called me and others racist for not marching to their drum on McCain-Kennedy. What about McCain –Feingold? The man sponsored a bill limiting free speech!!! McCain and his supporters advertise his war experience to attempt at making him untouchable. Is John McCain the only POW in America? Is he the only expert on torture or Guantanamo? There are thousands of POWs in this country and I am sure there are a large number of them who do not agree with McCain’s opinion on waterboarding violent terrorists or advocate relocating them to Kansas.
Another thing…he does not respect the leaders of the free enterprise system. He sat there in the Reagan Library with a smirk and belittled Romney for creating businesses that make a profit. What a joke. What nonsense coming from a so called Republican. Where does he think the funds come from to run the military? We do not conquer countries and confiscate treasure to support our military as did the Romans and others before us. It is business leaders and hard working private citizens who provide for the military. McCain has spent his entire life collecting a paycheck from the government (you and me). This is more and more apparent when you study the ignorance of McCain-Lieberman. He should have retired from the Senate several years ago and let someone else take a stab at representing the good folks of Arizona. He has been a thorn in the Republican Party and has not been a good servant to the citizens of his state. My problem is…after all this I will end up voting for the old man….no wait, maybe I will write in Ted Nugent/Tom Terbrock.
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Pete S.
I think Tom Terbrock would make a fine President....nicest guy on the planet.
God Bless,
LTL..
Thx LTL
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McCain, Obama, Clinton...either way George Soros wins!
http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56177
Now all his liberal posturing is starting to make sense. It ALWAYS comes down to "Follow the Dollars".
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What ever happened to my comment that was to be reviewed for moderation? I didn't think there was anything offensive or deragotory towards anyone in it?!
poof, so much on my question, I've forgotten it now. It was another near 3000 length one!
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Another fact of life that I've come to realize is that the future is going to happen no matter who is elected. Yet another reason to vote ones heart. We can try to affect the future, but in reality we have no control over that which doesn't exist except in the omniscience and omnipresence of God.
Many Muslims believe that they can bring to fruition Dar-Al-Islam by their own efforts. Are we so arrogant to believe that we can truly control the events of the future? In truth we cannot even say that we can direct or nudge it, for in saying that, we say that we are gods.
Vote your conscience, and may your conscience be what you truly believe is best first for you, then your nation. Our creator comes first, then our families and ourselves, lastly our nation and others.
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God, Family, Country, and Friends...nothing wrong with that Logus. Words taught to me long ago..Some may change the order of them, but that's how I choose to place them.
Vote your conscience Logus, but we have been given the blessing of choice and free will by our Creator, those choices ALWAYS have an impact on our future... We can influence our future by our choices good and bad.
Thx LTL...
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I think we oughtta just seceed from the union , and this will be a non-issue , j/k
serioussly though , the Economy is in a hell of a pickle right now and none of the main contenders arebringing any ideas to help us towards a prosperous economy ...
the dems want to spend , spend , spend and The mcain / huckleberry end of it isn't bringin much more to the table .. Huckleberry's flat-tax can't work to cure an ailing economy but has to be instituted in an upward market and McCain's continuation of Bush Tax-cuts isn't really feasible because the Bush economic program is a huge culprit in what got us here , especially if we're going to continue to get into more wars on his behalf .
I don't think my bitterness is towards specifically McCain although I disagree with damn near everything he represents , or the flop that my guy Ron Paul has taken , or even the fact that "The Liberals are Coming , The Liberals are Coming ! " . . . it's just that we have the choice between an old asshat and a new asshat .
p.s. still noone has told me me why Bill Clinton doesn't play the saxophone anymore ? that's what made him "cool" in the first place ! ! ! haha
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Well, nearly 2 weeks later I got an email from the RNC concerning my email I'd sent (which I'd posted on here too).
"Thank you for contacting the Republican National Committee. Your
comments will be included in the daily report to the Chairman. We
appreciate your interest."
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For all the talk about Reagan and his principles hardly a single person remembers Reagan's 11th commandment.
A patriot is someone who fights for their country and the ideals which established it. End of story. I'm shocked to see so many faux patriots in the conservative movement.
A vote for the lesser of two evils is called STRATEGY.
As I've said before, we've got two Supreme Court nominations on the line, a Second Amendment review, healthcare, taxes, all up to the legislative bench. Once universal healthcare is established it won't go away. Once we pull out of Iraq the damage to middle eastern democracy can't be undone.
If you want to take your ball and go home because the non-existent "Perfect Conservative Candidate" isn't in the running you should have your voting privileges revoked.
If you're a true republican you vote party line. If you're a true conservative you vote to best advance the conservative agenda. If you're a true patriot you dig your heels in and fight.
John McCain hasn't earned my vote - but I'd be stupid and a traitor to my principles if I rolled over and grabbed my ankles for Barack or Hillary. Obama is rated as the most liberal senator in congress with Hillary not far behind.
Besides, the only reason McCain is in office is because PEOPLE KEPT VOTING FOR HIM. He didn't assume elected office all on his own, you know.
Sorry to sound so ornery, but damn.
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OT..since this thread has been up awhile..
From claiming islam to be a religion of peace, to telling Christian Kenya to 'power share' with radical muslims who have been killing them and want to take over, to supporting the independence of Kosovo - militant islamists once again at the door of Europe.
WTF is wrong with George Bush?
Bush Administration Joins Al Qaeda in Kosovo
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/02/exclusive-paul.html
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A turn for the worst. A bombing in Copenhagen. Support Denmark! Your civilization is under attack.
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/jakob_illeborg/2008/02/a_turn_for_the_worse.html
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Algeria Sentences First Christian Under New Law
The ordinance confines non-Muslim worship to church buildings approved by the state, imposes penalties for proselytizing, and treats these as criminal rather than civil offenses. This law was passed without prior consultation with affected religious groups and, as a presidential decree, was subject to no debate or meaningful vote in Parliament.
The Government recognizes the Islamic holy days of Eid al-Adha, Eid al-Fitr, Awal Moharem, Ashura, and the birth of the Prophet Muhammad as national holidays.
No Saint Patrick’s Day or Christmas on that list. And in Algeria, the Easter Bunny was decapitated and eaten a long, long time ago.
Now the state apparatus is beginning to step up its opposition to non-Muslim practices. The Independent Catholic News, a volunteer journalism group headquartered in the UK, has news of the first known case of dhimmitude enforcement in Algeria since the law in 2006 was passed:
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A Catholic priest in Algeria has been sentenced to a year in prison for praying with Christians in Cameroon.
Middle East Concern reports that Father Pierre Wallez is the first victim of legislation approved in March 2006, prohibiting anyone from leading a religious ceremony anywhere without permission from the government in Algeria.
It appears that the only thing the priest did was to visit the Cameroon slum after Christmas. When they asked for a prayer, he obliged. This is against the law that proscribes any non-Muslim religious practice to take place anywhere except in a state-approved church building. This prayer took place outdoors, in a slum that has no approved building:
http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2008/02/algeria-sentences-first-christian.html#readfurther
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But don't worry your pretty little heads, it is a religion of peace.
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Annie,
It's not the Albanians that stormed the U.S. Embassy and killed someone. Only 10% of the people in Kosovo are Serbs. Granted the Serbs are primarily Christian. Are you saying that all the Albanians in Kosovo are radical Muslims?
Kosovo and the Albanians are unlike most Muslim countries in the world. They have embraced democracy and are staunch supporters of the U.S. and the west.
They are an example to Iraq and others in what democracy can bring. We are proving that democracy and freedom can work in a Muslim population. That is needed now more than ever.
Thx LTL..
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Dana - You might be caught in the red/blue illusion if you think that you are being "republican" by voting for mccain just because he is the "republican" candidate ... I hate to break it you but the fix is in , There IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS , at least not this time around .... keep voting on that idea and help keep America in this vicious cycle ..
Annie - Great link to that article , I've been reading alot about that today ... G.W. and his band of thugs have really just shat on the Americans this time .... If He is incahoots with al-qaeda on this one , Then what the hell is the freakin war all about ? ? ? I'm sick of this shit .
Kosovo has declared INDEPENDENCE and the international community is up in arms about it ... they want to be a sovereign nation , let it be . They want to have anything to do with NATO , let it be . They don't want to be controlled by the turks , russians , chinese , or have sanctions by the U.S. , let it be .... Goddamn . . all of this war , imperialism and globalizations its sickening .
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T - I didn't say I was republican; I'm not, actually. Since you missed that I'm not surprised you missed the entire point of my comment as well. Are you being deliberately obtuse in saying that "there is no difference between democrats and republicans this time around?" I can name about five big differences off the cuff. If you cannot then I suggest you delve into these candidates' policies a bit more, thx.
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Theins,
Do you really thing Bush is "incahoots" with Al-Qaeda? Have you lost your freakin' mind? Is it so simple for you to spout off complete ignorance so easily? C'mon dude that is beyond ridiculous!
The international community is NOT up in arms about this, Serbia is and a few eastern block countries are not happy... Is independence pleasing to everyone?
The U.S.,Britain, Germany and yes even France (Sarcozy is a blessing) are behind this...
What does "all over this war"? Can you explain that comment? Kosovo has nothing to do with "this war"....
So we are back to "imperialism"? Some how I don't remember our invasion of of the Balkan states....Is there something I am missing?
You know "T" I think you might be happier in The Congo eating rice pudding with your fingers and enjoying "true freedom", away from "the horrors" of all the evil of the west....
Thx LTL...
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Well, with 79 posts in 20 days, I think we can safely say that This Dead Horse Has Been Officially Flogged.
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SATIRE: Diebold already rigged election for McCain
Mike Sheehan
Raw Story
Thursday, February 28, 2008
Satirists at 'The Onion' are "reporting" that electronic voting company Diebold accidentally revealed it has already rigged the 2008 election in favor of Sen. John McCain.
"A minor software glitch at the Diebold Corporation today caused thousands of electronic voting machines to accidentally release the results of the 2008 presidentail election months ahead of schedule," reports a straight-faced Onion News Network host in the video below.
"I don't even know if I can enjoy the sham election now that I know who's gonna win," said one "voter" on the street, as another rued, "If you can't trust your shadowy overlords to keep a secret ... what is the purpose really of voting in a puppet democracy?"
A bogus spokesperson for Sen. Hillary Clinton is shown before the "press," saying Clinton "isn't about to give up just because she lost the election. She'll give up when she's supposed to, on Election Day. And she'll act surprised."
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I think this blog is currently mothballed.
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What's up with Bullmoose. The last posting was this McCain thing back on 2/8. Am I missing something?
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Lame. Deleting from favorites.
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Remember folks. Islam is a religion of Peace....
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,336253,00.html
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Yep , still works .... hmmm
This blog is as stale as McCain's chances of winning .
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